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Post by Anja Rebekka Schultze on Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:52 pm

[Adley, Colin, Nicole, Tane and Serge] (Cabal meeting 10 in the morning Wednesday 30/9 2015)

He nodded, "There were other options. They were worse. So much worse... and they hoped to avoid the worst of the consequences for their Cabal, which, unfortunately, did not go entirely according to plan...

"Well if they believed their Avatar needed to be destroyed then there was always vampirism, however if they actually thought that their Cabalmates would not be killed but rather be captured, then having them captured and have the Traditions rally for a valiant rescue would have had a grater impact."
Bruce said and frowned.
"Is that how one refer to a rebis by the way as they? So Nico would be a they?"

He nodded, "Fairly soon, too... Though I need to try to get that ritual to summon a Psychopomp translated fully first; that's probably going to help greatly... Er, it's a bit of a complicated story."

"What on earth is a psycopomp?"
The Orphan said and he scratched his head.
"In either case it might be nice for Bee to get another sister."

He nodded, "We'll essentially just have to wait until the Union pours too much vinegar in the Engineers' coffee..."

"Agreed that is bound to happen sooner or later."
Bruce said and nodded.

He grinned, "She's a lady indeed; she reminds me a lot of the Lady Violet Crawley in attitude, only younger and more physically agile, if that makes sense for an ephemeral being..."

"I got a stern old artificer complete with a tower and a workshop so I guess a nice lady is not so bad."
Bruce commented sounding a bit amused.
"I am still not sure they are not just part of our brains though."

He nodded, "I'm sure I can bring you along some time when I go to examine the 'cursed ship' a little closer; the material is indeed intriguing, and I am curious about the formula, myself. Just be aware that the Mary's Serafina is... deeply tainted, and quite unpleasant to examine magically. Extremely so, in fact."

"The ship might be interesting to study, disturbing but interesting. I have to admit to being more interested in Miss Kelly's harness, if it is a version of Pimium as you say that have the strength but not the magick dampening qualities that is quite the alloy."
Bruce said and grinned.

He nodded, "Perhaps you should consider testing if you feel any tangible difference in how easy your work is between your grandfather's workshop and the, hum, public forge, then."

"There definitively are a difference between my sanctum and the forge at the junkyard."
Bruce said.
"What where you thinking about Colin?"

He pondered for a moment, "Iron Man would be a Virtual Adept, I think, possibly an Etherite, Bruce Banner would be a Cultist, Black Widow, Captain America and Hawkeye would probably fit the Akashics best, Thor would... probably be a Hermetic, I think; possibly Flambeau?"

"Yeah Flambeau is possible for Thor or perhaps even more likely Verbena Storm Wives, they are Verbena war witches that use weather magick, storms and lightening, masters of Forces, sort of the Verbena's answer to House Flambeau."
Bruce suggested.

He smiled thoughtfully, "I'm sure Dr. Lee would appreciate a Rod of Asclepius, mine could be a wand of metal... Adley, how does a ruler sound for you?"

"Adley could always have a stylus."
The large man joked and pointed at the one in the Hermetic's hand.

He shook his head, "Human bloody nature - the ones running things would find loopholes, be deceitful and deliberately misinform their doped-up athletes if they thought they could increase profits that way. With no care for the athletes' long-term well-being."

Bruce gave a sour look and nodded at that.

He grinned, "I'm sure she would at least consider letting us go if we helped protect her grandchild that day... but probably best not to gamble on that, common enemy or not."

"Saving her grandchild might have won us her favor but even so, enemy faction's Masters of the Art tend to be good to stay away from, she must have been some lady though the Etherites still speak about her, and many of her descendants over the years have developed magick and come to the Traditions, secretly off course."
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Post by Anja Rebekka Schultze on Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:28 pm

[Adley, Colin, Nicole, Tane and Serge] (Cabal meeting 10 in the morning Wednesday 30/9 2015)

"Give me some adderall and gatorade and I can put up as many as you want." Serge said with a chuckle. "Seriously though I can put up a fair bit. Especially in places where people are most likely to pass by. I can think of a few fun little things to do to those Technocrats. Those technocrats are likely to be on edge, expecting anything and everything. Which makes my job a lot easier."

"But I'd like to test the drawings before any actual threats come into contact with them. Remember I've only made them recently. I wanna make sure I understand them properly."

"I agree the drawings have to be tested but if they work they could make our job easier if put up in strategic places and if not to many of the Technocrats have remembered to protect their minds."
Bruce said and nodded.

"That was before I learned how to do those types of alarms. I'm better at controlling my binges now." Serge said ignoring the look.

"I take it then that a watch alarm would not have worked Mr Yager?"
Bruce asked.

"Yeah I guess. I wanna work on that problem." Serge said simply.

"The problem of still having to adhere to basic biology or the problem of not being a Marauder?"
Bruce asked dryly.

"I'm just wondering how to arrange on the heraldry. I wanted to do a star formation but a nine pointed star but I'm not sure how good that would look. Perhaps all of their effects are casted inwards, coming together within the center?"

"Them pointing inwards could work."
Was all the large Orphan had to say about that.

"Guess not. It would ruin the whimsical magick if we examined it like scientists." Serge said with a grin.

"Just make sure you wash your hands after handling them kid."

Bruce joked.

"Black Widow would be Euthanatos...I think? She's an assassin and that's the Euthanatos's thing right?

"I would not let any Euthanatoi hear you speak like that kid, they are not assassins, and assassin is someone who kill for hire or kill for an organization the Euthanathos don't do that, they are guardians of the Cycle and when they kill it is just to protect it, for example if some kid would grow up to be a great man but his stepfather abuse him then the Euthanathos might decide this stepfather have to die, but they never kill for hire or for power."
Bruce said and shook his head.

I guess Captain America would be in the Akashics even though that feels wrong. Orphan who volunteered for a progenitor experiment feels more accurate though.

"Captain America would be a Progenitor, what he is are exactly what they do."
The large man said and nodded.

Hawkeye also has Euthanatos qualities but Akashic seems good too. Cultist maybe since I remember him learning his archery skills from the circus.

"The Euthanathos are not assassins as I said but Akashic might fit, he could be a custos though."

Thor I just wanna say is a powerful high-ranking Umbrood from the Umbral Plane of Asgard who materializes on Earth from time to time. But if he must be a mage Hermetic is the most fitting."

"No the Asgardians in Marvel are definitively not spirits, they come from a realm, but from another realm that he would be."

Serge sighed sadly and said defeatedly, "Yeah your right. In a perfect world maybe but I guess it would never work in the real world. People would abuse it quite fast."

"Indeed in a perfect world it world work but such a thing would be abused for profit in the world we live in."
Bruce agreed and nodded.

"But you guys do have to remember that I've seen the horrors of war very clearly. I've seen and felt with quite vivid detail my mentor on the verge of dying. I've seen the memories of war prisoners and all the gory things they had to endure. Felt what they felt in their darkest moments. I know understand realities you guys speak about, even if at times it doesn't seem like I do."

"If you do understand Mr Yager then why do you make comments like the one you just did about a spell to make real fights like movie fights and moving down your enemies like nameless mooks, such comments do not really indicate that you really understand, yes you understand that those you love can get hurt but do you for example understand that those you suggjest are nameless mooks are also someone's loved ones?"
Bruce said and he gave Serge a serious look.
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Post by Anja Rebekka Schultze on Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:15 am

[Adley, Colin, Tane and Serge] (Cabal meeting 10 in the morning Wednesday 30/9 2015)

"God I hate mind shields so fucking much...they ruin all the fun." Serge muttered under his breath.

"Ruining the fun of those who would mess with your mind is the reason why mind shields exist."
Bruce said and grinned.

Serge just laughed at the suggestion. After a good chuckle he said, "Oh not at all. I'd barely be able to hear that. Anything less than a punch to the face probably wouldn't break me out of that trance."

"I see, well that must be impractical Mr Yager."
Bruce said dryly.

"First one." Serge said wondering how he had managed to get three people this week to worry that he was becoming a maurader.

"Ah well that is a relief, you better do an study with the Verbena then, they are the masters of ignoring regular biology."
The artificer said and grinned.

"Your all the worst." Serge said sarcastically.

"Indeed I am."
Bruce said sounding amused.

"Most of my magicks are imperceptible to anyone without enhanced senses and even then it's hard to realize I'm doing anything at all. My art also typically contains both modern and traditional symbols so it's hard for other mages to realize that it's a focus for magick. So I never really need to worry about being discrete." Serge said with an odd frown as if he wasn't fond of his invisible magick.

"If I where a Technocrat kid and I was cruising for mages, I would look closer at the person wearing clothing with allot of occult scribbles all over his clothes."
Bruce said as he regarded Serge.
"There is value in being discreet."

"If we exclude the Men in Black then she would either be Akashic or Euthanatos." Serge said with a shrug.

"Did not I just tell you that the Euthanathos are not assassins it is an important distinction. Now when that is said Akashic yes she might be an Akashic that could fit."

"I don't know about being a progenitor. Experimented on by them, definitely. But he seems like he'd break free of their control to pursue his own principals and goals."

"Up until Civil War he follow the order of the American government, he never breaks free of the ones experimenting on him so he would definitively be a Progenitor."
Bruce protested.

"With his accuracy? Nah. He managed to hit the engine of a massive helicarrier in a storm....without looking. Probably trained by the Technocracy but broke free to work on his own." Serge said as he thought more about who Hawkeye would belong too.


"Former Technocrat now and Orphan, yeah I can buy that."
The artificer said and nodded.

"Hermetic it is then!" Serge said with a smile.

Bruce nodded at that.

"Because I talk too much." Serge said simply. "I speak what I think without thinking and that often causes weird and sometimes bizarre things to come out of my mouth. I was just sorta joking around when I said all those things. Imagining how neat it would be if we could shape reality like that. I wasn't being serious. I try to look at the humorous things in life so it all seems less dark. Cause if I only focused on the grim harsh version of the world that I'd believe in since I was little, I'd never have been a mage."

"Very well kid, the problem is when you give no indication between joking and what you actually mean, for I thought you actually thought the spell you mentioned to be a good idea and that would be a dangerous idea of what combat is."
Bruce said.
"So do continue to joke that is fine kid but wink or something so other understand when you are joking and when you are serious."

"I wanted to ask Dr. Lee to show me some martial arts. But I don't think he has the time to show me something like that. Especially since I don't think I have the physique to properly learn it."

"Everything else being equal the strongest person have a real advantage Mr Yager but that do not mean a smaller person can not also learn to fight efficiently, have you seen Beatrice fight with her daggers? No I suppose not, but you would not want to get on her bad side or she will poke you full of holes and she is tiny."
Bruce said and smiled.

"I'm not saying what he did was right. I think that's the hardest part to understand."

Bruce sigh and nodded at that and said nothing more about it.

"Oh, definitely she is going to choose for herself."

The Artificer nodded again.

Serge blinked. "Damn. Mr. Roth Hicks is right. It doesn't feel right either. But I can't really think of any other place for him. Unless he'd be an orphan too. Or better yet a part of a group only found on the Umbral realm of Asgard. But that doesn't fit the spirit of the game..."

"We have the Hagalaz group from your own Tradition Mr Yager he might fit there."
Bruce said and grinned.
"They are Norse."

Regal and grand and the Tarot card does symbolize great hope amidst many problems. Although I'm not sure if we can just rip off a Tarot Card as a Cabal Name. Can we?"

"Sure we can."
Bruce commented.

"Cabal of the Nine Wands?" he pondered.

"I like it."
Bruce said and smiled.

True, but even though we have an agenda and we need to meet it, and as you see we couldn't take the time to actually do something together to just chill and know ourselves better. It's like we need both things, organization and bonding, but as we don't have the spaces we just settle with an In-between that's just paliative.

"We have been discussing ordering pizza and having dinner together and a paintball game once Aley feel better."
Bruce said.

Abstractly, we could do something like rearranging it into shape with something, much like how you'd form ferric structures with a magnet. There has to be a quick and drastic way to change it back as there is to destroy. Although i know destroying is easier than building

"They are Avatars not Lego buildings I am not sure you can just rearrange them Mr Yager."
Bruce said sounding rather doubtful.
"And a quick and drastic way to change an Avatar do not sound very safe."

Well, think about this: Concensus is what we all make of it. Then, Mages are major powerplayers in the consensus, being able to single handedly change it at different scales. Now, if a whole lot of mages all over the world belive they're not mages, then they, in a way, through eras, stop being mages. They become really Savants, Geniuses and whatever you wanna call it, but nothing like a mage although we see how they do what they do.
To start changing that, to start making it the opposite, we need to be better, to inspire more of them and more of the masses the notion that magick is real and they can be magick and get ascention.

"The Traditions are already doing this to keep the mystical arts alive."
Bruce said simply.

And to do that, we must do an inside work. So we need to change all in this structure. From our own structure, now old and monolitic, directed by people with thousands of years, down on to the common life. We move around as shadows, as we are being intentionally turned into memories. That's just waiting to truly become no more than shadows.

Maybe, to be less poetic and more practical, i belive we are stubbornly using old techniques for new problems, and we need to keep up, but we can't due to a long list of reasons, not being less the fact that old powers still make and uphold the same ways that led to their defeat too.

"Old magickal systems seam to still work pretty well for the ones using them, I use a more modern system myself but I can not deny the power the Verbena and the Hermetics among others have."
Bruce said and he shook his head.
"And I do not think that it would be a good idea to come out from among the shadows, the Law of Shade is there for a reason, the sleepers would not be kind if the found out that we exist."

We'll see if they are up to the task, but... it would be a mission i don't know much about. I mean... we'd have to go to a plane i don't exactly know how to reach that's pure change, and then study what we can of it to learn a way to get an avatar into it and use the change produced on it by the spirit realm to get the avatar back to shape.

"This to me sound like you need allot more info and allot more study of this in theory before risking yourself and an Umbral pilot to actually go there."
Bruce said and he raised an eyebrow.

in any case, i'd have to look how it is but i belive we can numb the corruption, at least try to isolate it's influence on the ship's behaviour so we can travel.
I hope it is not as hard to cleanse as a soul so maybe we can actually clean it for good.

"If it is the ship Colin have been discussing you are talking about Mr Karyak then I doubt that her owner would like you to take it to some strange mystery realm that can get you and your crew killed and the ship destroyed Mr Karyak, the expedition you talk about seam rather ill planned."
The Artificer commented dryly.

Then we better start making preparations.

"Agreed."
Bruce said simply.

I have a few tricks up my sleeve, so reaching is not the problem. Maybe we can ask for a special... investigation license? Or maybe a permit to prepare for the now nephandus girl's trial... i would try to reach out on my own but as you asked me to think it twice, i belive we should think how to get there without getting ourselves on trial... as soon as we have a solution we can start a revolution on, "avatar recovery" ? That's a thing?

"It is ot getting to this woman you are discussing which are the problem Mr Karyak, if you can get a ship that is or otherwise travel the Umbra to find her, it is that she while not corrupted, the way I understand it she have been with the Nephandi and the law says conspire not with the enemies os Ascencion, that is where the problem lies, but off course you could try to discuss the matter with an Enforcer and see if they can work something out."
Bruce said.

(OOC: Sorry about that I just copy pasted the tag and forgot to take Nicole's name out of it. I will get on it to do more scenes for Nicole and reply to your PM but right now I have been struggeling to keep up with the IC so it have to go first.)
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Post by Warpmind on Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:47 am

[Cabal Meeting, 10 AM, Wednesday September 30th]
Anja wrote:"Well if they believed their Avatar needed to be destroyed then there was always vampirism, however if they actually thought that their Cabalmates would not be killed but rather be captured, then having them captured and have the Traditions rally for a valiant rescue would have had a grater impact."
Bruce said and frowned.
"Is that how one refer to a rebis by the way as they? So Nico would be a they?"
S7trif3 wrote:"Sometimes all the options are bad ones, even if you want to make a good choice and try your best to make a good decision."
Anja wrote:Bruce sigh and nodded.
"I guess you are right Adley, I guess you are right but it still seam wrong."
S7trif3 wrote:"I'm not saying what he did was right. I think that's the hardest part to understand."
Colin nodded thoughtfully, "As Adley points out, what is right and what is necessary don't always correspond... Heylel Teomim was, despite being lauded as so great, was a deeply flawed being. And yes, I do believe the singular they is appropriate for a Rebis - unless they prefer otherwise. Really, you should ask Nico what they prefer for themselves."

Jeremy wrote:"Blue is the magick of countering stuff. So I'm sure Anna would love it." Serge said with a grin. "There are a lot of videos online on the game. How to play and the philosophies each color represents, both gameplay wise and personality wise. I'm sure you could learn it quickly."
He smiled wryly, "Problem is my insufferable ability to know what everyone draws, just before it happens. Gives me an unfair advantage that I never asked for..."

S7trif3 wrote:"I suppose we have time to plan now at least."
He nodded, "A little bit of time, yes."

Tane wrote:Abstractly, we could do something like rearranging it into shape with something, much like how you'd form ferric structures with a magnet. There has to be a quick and drastic way to change it back as there is to destroy. Although i know destroying is easier than building
Anja wrote:"They are Avatars not Lego buildings I am not sure you can just rearrange them Mr Yager."
Bruce said sounding rather doubtful.
"And a quick and drastic way to change an Avatar do not sound very safe."
He frowned, "Taking apart an Avatar is the... easy part. The problem is wringing the bits back into their right shape and putting them back together. That's still well beyond the abilities of any Mage, I'm afraid..."

Anja wrote:"What on earth is a psycopomp?"
The Orphan said and he scratched his head.
"In either case it might be nice for Bee to get another sister."
S7trif3 wrote:"I should very much like to see that ritual."
He grinned, "They're not on Earth, actually - they're semimythological beings that have helped Avatars merge perfectly with Mages, back when Mages had Founts that had no voice."

Tane wrote:Well, think about this: Concensus is what we all make of it. Then, Mages are major powerplayers in the consensus, being able to single handedly change it at different scales. Now, if a whole lot of mages all over the world belive they're not mages, then they, in a way, through eras, stop being mages. They become really Savants, Geniuses and whatever you wanna call it, but nothing like a mage although we see how they do what they do.
To start changing that, to start making it the opposite, we need to be better, to inspire more of them and more of the masses the notion that magick is real and they can be magick and get ascention.
And to do that, we must do an inside work. So we need to change all in this structure. From our own structure, now old and monolitic, directed by people with thousands of years, down on to the common life. We move around as shadows, as we are being intentionally turned into memories. That's just waiting to truly become no more than shadows.

Maybe, to be less poetic and more practical, i belive we are stubbornly using old techniques for new problems, and we need to keep up, but we can't due to a long list of reasons, not being less the fact that old powers still make and uphold the same ways that led to their defeat too.
Anja wrote:"The Traditions are already doing this to keep the mystical arts alive."
Bruce said simply.
He frowned, "Mages that don't Awaken as Traditionalists tend to become Technocrats; the Union refuses to believe in Magic, yet they essentially do the same as we, and they unfortunately have something of a stranglehold on the Consensus... for now. But, with the surge in fantasy and modern occultism, we're cracking the enamel, all the same..."

Anja wrote:"Old magickal systems seam to still work pretty well for the ones using them, I use a more modern system myself but I can not deny the power the Verbena and the Hermetics among others have."
Bruce said and he shook his head.
"And I do not think that it would be a good idea to come out from among the shadows, the Law of Shade is there for a reason, the sleepers would not be kind if the found out that we exist."
He nodded, "Indeed, however subtle the wizard, a nine millimeter bullet to the head will cramp his style."

Tane wrote:We'll see if they are up to the task, but... it would be a mission i don't know much about. I mean... we'd have to go to a plane i don't exactly know how to reach that's pure change, and then study what we can of it to learn a way to get an avatar into it and use the change produced on it by the spirit realm to get the avatar back to shape.

in any case, i'd have to look how it is but i belive we can numb the corruption, at least try to isolate it's influence on the ship's behaviour so we can travel.
I hope it is not as hard to cleanse as a soul so maybe we can actually clean it for good.
Anja wrote:"This to me sound like you need allot more info and allot more study of this in theory before risking yourself and an Umbral pilot to actually go there."
Bruce said and he raised an eyebrow.
Anja wrote:"If it is the ship Colin have been discussing you are talking about Mr Karyak then I doubt that her owner would like you to take it to some strange mystery realm that can get you and your crew killed and the ship destroyed Mr Karyak, the expedition you talk about seam rather ill planned."
The Artificer commented dryly.
He frowned, "You want to go to a place of pure change... that's not going to take protecting the ship from corruption, as such, that's... no, I'm not going to agree with or participate in such a voyage; not without some serious power at my side to dampen the forces of change. Far too risky."

Tane wrote:Then we better start making preparations.
He smiled, "One step ahead of you. I'll be meeting with The Admiral soon enough, and airing some defensive plans with her."

Tane wrote:I have a few tricks up my sleeve, so reaching is not the problem. Maybe we can ask for a special... investigation license? Or maybe a permit to prepare for the now nephandus girl's trial... i would try to reach out on my own but as you asked me to think it twice, i belive we should think how to get there without getting ourselves on trial... as soon as we have a solution we can start a revolution on, "avatar recovery" ? That's a thing?
Anja wrote:"It is ot getting to this woman you are discussing which are the problem Mr Karyak, if you can get a ship that is or otherwise travel the Umbra to find her, it is that she while not corrupted, the way I understand it she have been with the Nephandi and the law says conspire not with the enemies os Ascencion, that is where the problem lies, but off course you could try to discuss the matter with an Enforcer and see if they can work something out."
Bruce said.
He frowned, "Avatar Restoration, really. But reaching Lady Dalisse will take time we don't have to spare before the trial, I'm afraid - and the legality issue is also a problem. So we have to research closer to home for now."

Jeremy wrote:"Give me some adderall and gatorade and I can put up as many as you want." Serge said with a chuckle. "Seriously though I can put up a fair bit. Especially in places where people are most likely to pass by. I can think of a few fun little things to do to those Technocrats. Those technocrats are likely to be on edge, expecting anything and everything. Which makes my job a lot easier."

"But I'd like to test the drawings before any actual threats come into contact with them. Remember I've only made them recently. I wanna make sure I understand them properly."
Anja wrote:"I agree the drawings have to be tested but if they work they could make our job easier if put up in strategic places and if not to many of the Technocrats have remembered to protect their minds."
Bruce said and nodded.
Jeremy wrote:"God I hate mind shields so fucking much...they ruin all the fun." Serge muttered under his breath.
S7trif3 wrote:"I like them when I am the one that has one, they prevent me from being disabled in battles against nasty spirits or mind mages..."
Jeremy wrote:"They prevent me from disabling enemies that otherwise would've been really easy to avoid or trick." Serge said grumpily.
S7trif3 wrote:"What about using countermagick to break down their mental defenses first?"
Anja wrote:
"Ruining the fun of those who would mess with your mind is the reason why mind shields exist."
Bruce said and grinned.
He smiled wryly, "You have the remainder of the year to experiment. And mind shields are not the be-all-end-all in mental combat, either... I feel sorry for Siege, really."

S7trif3 wrote:He made a face as he recalled it and nodded. "So you did, and I did tell him, that's right...I didn't know the rest of it though. Hrm..."
He nodded, "Well, the lady has lived a long life..."

Jeremy wrote:"Yeah I guess. I wanna work on that problem." Serge said simply.
Anja wrote:"The problem of still having to adhere to basic biology or the problem of not being a Marauder?"
Bruce asked dryly.
Jeremy wrote:"First one." Serge said wondering how he had managed to get three people this week to worry that he was becoming a maurader.
Anja wrote:"Ah well that is a relief, you better do an study with the Verbena then, they are the masters of ignoring regular biology."
The artificer said and grinned.
He grinned, "Just be careful with how you solve that problem. Some of the solutions have pretty steep costs."

Anja wrote:"I got a stern old artificer complete with a tower and a workshop so I guess a nice lady is not so bad."
Bruce commented sounding a bit amused.
"I am still not sure they are not just part of our brains though."
He nodded, "The pineal gland does seem to be the physical connection - but the Avatar is not just a part of our brains."

Anja wrote:"The ship might be interesting to study, disturbing but interesting. I have to admit to being more interested in Miss Kelly's harness, if it is a version of Pimium as you say that have the strength but not the magick dampening qualities that is quite the alloy."
Bruce said and grinned.
He nodded, "Almost as strong as Primium, yes. I'll make sure to bring you along next trip I make."

Anja wrote:"There definitively are a difference between my sanctum and the forge at the junkyard."
Bruce said.
"What where you thinking about Colin?"
He smiled thinly, "Testing if you see any appreciable difference in power between items you enchant in the Sanctum and at the forge. Might give you some ideas for working around impediments, at least."

Jeremy wrote:"I'm just wondering how to arrange on the heraldry. I wanted to do a star formation but a nine pointed star but I'm not sure how good that would look. Perhaps all of their effects are casted inwards, coming together within the center?"
Anja wrote:"Them pointing inwards could work."
Was all the large Orphan had to say about that.
S7trif3 wrote:"A circle is a good symbol."
Jeremy wrote:"Circles are often used to represent unity. Wholeness. Protection. That's an interesting idea." Serge said thoughtfully.
He arched an eyebrow, "A Round Table, perhaps? Like the one at Camelot of old?"

Anja wrote:"Yeah Flambeau is possible for Thor or perhaps even more likely Verbena Storm Wives, they are Verbena war witches that use weather magick, storms and lightening, masters of Forces, sort of the Verbena's answer to House Flambeau."
Bruce suggested.
Anja wrote:"Ehhhh.." Serge began incredulously. "Most of those I agree with. Assuming they were a part of the traditions and not the Union that is. Iron man would be more Etherite than VA. Bruce Banner would have to be an Etherite as well though. Genius scientist who got caught in a terrible paradox backlash. It's a perfect fit." he began as he began to draw on his notepad once again producing minimalist version of each of the hero's he was describing.

"Black Widow would be Euthanatos...I think? She's an assassin and that's the Euthanatos's thing right? Captain America and Hawkeye are probably the hardest though. I guess Captain America would be in the Akashics even though that feels wrong. Orphan who volunteered for a progenitor experiment feels more accurate though. Hawkeye also has Euthanatos qualities but Akashic seems good too. Cultist maybe since I remember him learning his archery skills from the circus. Thor I just wanna say is a powerful high-ranking Umbrood from the Umbral Plane of Asgard who materializes on Earth from time to time. But if he must be a mage Hermetic is the most fitting."
Anja wrote:"I would not let any Euthanatoi hear you speak like that kid, they are not assassins, and assassin is someone who kill for hire or kill for an organization the Euthanathos don't do that, they are guardians of the Cycle and when they kill it is just to protect it, for example if some kid would grow up to be a great man but his stepfather abuse him then the Euthanathos might decide this stepfather have to die, but they never kill for hire or for power."
Bruce said and shook his head.
Jeremy wrote:"If we exclude the Men in Black then she would either be Akashic or Euthanatos." Serge said with a shrug.
Anja wrote:"Did not I just tell you that the Euthanathos are not assassins it is an important distinction. Now when that is said Akashic yes she might be an Akashic that could fit."
Anja wrote:"Captain America would be a Progenitor, what he is are exactly what they do."
The large man said and nodded.
Jeremy wrote:"I don't know about being a progenitor. Experimented on by them, definitely. But he seems like he'd break free of their control to pursue his own principals and goals."
Anja wrote:"Up until Civil War he follow the order of the American government, he never breaks free of the ones experimenting on him so he would definitively be a Progenitor."
Bruce protested.
Anja wrote:"The Euthanathos are not assassins as I said but Akashic might fit, he could be a custos though."
Jeremy wrote:"With his accuracy? Nah. He managed to hit the engine of a massive helicarrier in a storm....without looking. Probably trained by the Technocracy but broke free to work on his own." Serge said as he thought more about who Hawkeye would belong too.
Anja wrote:"Former Technocrat now and Orphan, yeah I can buy that."
The artificer said and nodded.
Anja wrote:"No the Asgardians in Marvel are definitively not spirits, they come from a realm, but from another realm that he would be."
Jeremy wrote:"Hermetic it is then!" Serge said with a smile.
S7trif3 wrote:Adley blinked. "If I heard that correctly, you just put a Norse god in the Order of Hermes. Not that I understood anything else of that conversation."
Jeremy wrote:Serge blinked. "Damn. Mr. Roth Hicks is right. It doesn't feel right either. But I can't really think of any other place for him. Unless he'd be an orphan too. Or better yet a part of a group only found on the Umbral realm of Asgard. But that doesn't fit the spirit of the game..."
Anja wrote:"We have the Hagalaz group from your own Tradition Mr Yager he might fit there."
Bruce said and grinned.
"They are Norse."
He pondered, "Cap's no Progenitor - he doesn't actually do any of the science; he's a lab rat, not a scientist... Banner fits probably best as a Cultist; he becomes the Hulk through anger - a perfect example of altered mental states if I ever saw one. And Thor... A Verbena Storm Wife might be the best fit, yes. In fact, I could easily see Master Nassa cheerfully swing Mjolnir around and throw thunder and lightning from it."
He grinned to Adley, "Asgardians in Marvel are not gods, as such, though they've been worshipped as gods by more primitive peoples. They're technically aliens."

Anja wrote:"Adley could always have a stylus."
The large man joked and pointed at the one in the Hermetic's hand.
S7trif3 wrote:"A ruler? No...the double snake around a wand with wings is a sign of Hermes, the Caduceus but the single one is the rod of Aesculapius which would fit for a healer...and a stylus and pen are too close together, also. A fire wand still could work, simply enough. The hourglass of two triangles, water and fire are also my house sigil. I never thought of a personal insignia," he said, making a face. "I am curious why you thought of a ruler?" he asked Colin, curious. "I do wonder if Bee would like hers to be a tree branch..." He cleared up the tablet as his attention was drawn back to it. "Staves can have all sorts of filials, which is good to make them unique for each of us."
Anja wrote:"I think she might Adley but we should probably ask her, since we are making the staves unique and symbolic of each of us."
Bruce said and nodded.
"A branch would suit her though."
S7trif3 wrote:"Oh, definitely she is going to choose for herself."
He smiled, "I thought of a ruler, because every teacher I ever had used one. Well, a ruler and a piece of chalk... And I would not suggest that we decide for Bee - she'd get all indignant."

S7trif3 wrote:He shook his head. "Probably not, it's not the happiest place and it's under Technocracy watch I'm sure..."
He frowned, "There's a Technocrat doctor there, but I'm given to understand it's considered sort of a safe harbour for both sides - we don't want to stir the pot, and the Technocrats don't want to remove a couple of skilled doctors from the hospital, either..."

Jeremy wrote:"I'll definitely take up that offer one day. I want to experience everything there is to experience." Serge said quietly. "But you guys do have to remember that I've seen the horrors of war very clearly. I've seen and felt with quite vivid detail my mentor on the verge of dying. I've seen the memories of war prisoners and all the gory things they had to endure. Felt what they felt in their darkest moments. I understand the realities you guys speak about, even if at times it doesn't seem like I do."
Anja wrote:"If you do understand Mr Yager then why do you make comments like the one you just did about a spell to make real fights like movie fights and moving down your enemies like nameless mooks, such comments do not really indicate that you really understand, yes you understand that those you love can get hurt but do you for example understand that those you suggjest are nameless mooks are also someone's loved ones?"
Bruce said and he gave Serge a serious look.
Jeremy wrote:"Because I talk too much." Serge said simply. "I speak what I think without thinking and that often causes weird and sometimes bizarre things to come out of my mouth. I was just sorta joking around when I said all those things. Imagining how neat it would be if we could shape reality like that. I wasn't being serious. I try to look at the humorous things in life so it all seems less dark. Cause if I only focused on the grim harsh version of the world that I'd believe in since I was little, I'd never have been a mage."
S7trif3 wrote:Adley looked quite confused at Serge. "I think we have quite different senses of humor, then...."
Anja wrote:"Very well kid, the problem is when you give no indication between joking and what you actually mean, for I thought you actually thought the spell you mentioned to be a good idea and that would be a dangerous idea of what combat is."
Bruce said.
"So do continue to joke that is fine kid but wink or something so other understand when you are joking and when you are serious."
His expression softened slightly, "You're using humour to distract yourself, aren't you? I can see where that comes from..."

S7trif3 wrote:"Hrm, Mr Yager would you like to learn how to actually use weapons? If nothing else, it would help your art along to know the proper forms. There are several types of groups, knives and hand to hand. I can even break out some classic shortsword forms for you. Aside from that, I think you has a point here, we've all been traumatized enough for several lifetimes. Let's stick to our meeting agenda for now."
Jeremy wrote:"Yes! Please! I've always wanted to wield a weapon in real life since I was a kid. I could use the experience in my art." Serge said, his mood improving somewhat at the suggestion. "I wanted to ask Dr. Lee to show me some martial arts. But I don't think he has the time to show me something like that. Especially since I don't think I have the physique to properly learn it."
S7trif3 wrote:"I normally train at least once a week on something but it will be a bit until I'm ready to get back to it. As for physique, the answer is similar, you have to train. Have you ever tried to hold a sword for very long? They get heavy pretty quickly...at any rate, I digress. We seem to have settled on an idea for the imago, but haven't decided the cabal name quite yet unless I missed it."
Jeremy wrote:"Well...I've held a sword before. But it might not be in the way you might think. It's kinda hard to explain. In fact just ignore that whole statement. No I haven't held a sword before." Serge said rather vaguely. "I know they can get heavy but I don't know exactly how heavy they are."
Anja wrote:"Everything else being equal the strongest person have a real advantage Mr Yager but that do not mean a smaller person can not also learn to fight efficiently, have you seen Beatrice fight with her daggers? No I suppose not, but you would not want to get on her bad side or she will poke you full of holes and she is tiny."
Bruce said and smiled.
He grinned, "You're all welcome to come running with me every morning; a few laps around the block would do you a world of good."

Jeremy wrote:"Your right. I guess we got a bit sidetracked." Serge said with a frown. "Mr. Wainwright did say 'The Nine of Wands'. It doesn't follow the British pub theme we had earlier though but it still impressive in it's own right. Regal and grand and the Tarot card does symbolize great hope amidst many problems. Although I'm not sure if we can just rip off a Tarot Card as a Cabal Name. Can we?"
S7trif3 wrote:"Cabal of the Nine Wands?" he pondered.
He shrugged, "I don't see why we could not take a Tarot card as Cabal name - but, for now, we'll only add it to the suggestion list. The others need to be allowed input, too."

Anja wrote:"Saving her grandchild might have won us her favor but even so, enemy faction's Masters of the Art tend to be good to stay away from, she must have been some lady though the Etherites still speak about her, and many of her descendants over the years have developed magick and come to the Traditions, secretly off course."
He nodded, "Masters of the Art tend to be a good idea to be careful around, whatever faction they belong to. And magic aside, she held the British Empire together for over 60 years; she was one hell of a Lady, as befitted her rank."

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Post by Anja Rebekka Schultze on Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:38 am

[Adley, Colin, Tane and Serge] (Cabal meeting 10 in the morning Wednesday 30/9 2015)

He nodded thoughtfully, "As Adley points out, what is right and what is necessary don't always correspond... Heylel Teomim was, despite being lauded as so great, was a deeply flawed being. And yes, I do believe the singular they is appropriate for a Rebis - unless they prefer otherwise. Really, you should ask Nico what they prefer for themselves."

"You are probably right and it is hard to judge in a situation I was not a part of."
Bruce said then he grinned.
"And I will ask Nico, when I take them out to dinner today, Dr Lee have given the ok if we do not go far and they are not strained to much."

He grinned, "They're not on Earth, actually - they're semimythological beings that have helped Avatars merge perfectly with Mages, back when Mages had Founts that had no voice."

"That is pretty cool actually and you can summon one of these what was it you called them?"
Bruce asked sounding impressed.

He frowned, "Mages that don't Awaken as Traditionalists tend to become Technocrats; the Union refuses to believe in Magic, yet they essentially do the same as we, and they unfortunately have something of a stranglehold on the Consensus... for now. But, with the surge in fantasy and modern occultism, we're cracking the enamel, all the same..."

"Defeat the Union one fantasy book at the time."
Bruce joked.

He nodded, "Indeed, however subtle the wizard, a nine millimeter bullet to the head will cramp his style."

"True that and it is something best avoided."
The Artificer commented dryly.

He frowned, "Avatar Restoration, really. But reaching Lady Dalisse will take time we don't have to spare before the trial, I'm afraid - and the legality issue is also a problem. So we have to research closer to home for now."

"This is about keeping Adeptus Riez's old sweetheart out of the Main Sentencing Hall right?"
Bruce asked.
"For then yes time is definitively of the essence."

He smiled wryly, "You have the remainder of the year to experiment. And mind shields are not the be-all-end-all in mental combat, either... I feel sorry for Siege, really."

Bruce just grinned at that.

He nodded, "The pineal gland does seem to be the physical connection - but the Avatar is not just a part of our brains."

Bruce grunted at that saying that he did not completely agree but he did not want to argue the point either.

He nodded, "Almost as strong as Primium, yes. I'll make sure to bring you along next trip I make."

"Great thanks...a most interesting material indeed."
The Artificer said dreamily.

He smiled thinly, "Testing if you see any appreciable difference in power between items you enchant in the Sanctum and at the forge. Might give you some ideas for working around impediments, at least."

"Sure I can do that."
Bruce agreed.
"Might be an interesting experiment."

He pondered, "Cap's no Progenitor - he doesn't actually do any of the science; he's a lab rat, not a scientist... Banner fits probably best as a Cultist; he becomes the Hulk through anger - a perfect example of altered mental states if I ever saw one. And Thor... A Verbena Storm Wife might be the best fit, yes. In fact, I could easily see Master Nassa cheerfully swing Mjolnir around and throw thunder and lightning from it."
He grinned to Adley, "Asgardians in Marvel are not gods, as such, though they've been worshipped as gods by more primitive peoples. They're technically aliens."

"Perhaps you are right about Cap, Thor as a Verbena Storm Wife though that do fit, and Master Nassa swinging a big, enchanted hammer would be terrifying."
Bruce said with a grin.

He nodded, "Masters of the Art tend to be a good idea to be careful around, whatever faction they belong to. And magic aside, she held the British Empire together for over 60 years; she was one hell of a Lady, as befitted her rank."

"She was a interesting lady the Sons of Ether still hold her in much regard, after all she was let in before the Tradition generally allowed women to become members."
Bruce said.
"I am more interested in her accomplishments as a mage than her being royalty, she earned her rank among mages, her title as queen was just handed to her."

(Talking with Captain Welder.)

Colin nodded, "Of course; if I had any actual authority in the Traditions, I would welcome both groups in with open arms, but alas, I am but a humble Orphan, and as such quite far removed from any political decisions. Though I do find that those in power tend to listen to my suggestions, at least. And true, your mission is with Mr. Karyak, not the rest of the world. Yet."

"The problem, is not membership, the Verbena might protest against the Kights Templar joining but for most of the rest they would be welcomed as Orphan groups or members of other Traditions but we don't want that, we want to retain who we are and find safety in numbers and that is all I can say about the matter."
Captain Welder said softly.

He smiled, "Think nothing of it, Captain - we're both officers, after all."

The Templar nodded at that and she gave you a bit of a grateful smile.

He nodded and prepared to note down Welder's contact information, "Yes, this would be a good time for that, Anna... Captain, we did bring you a little snack, a British export. I hope you like them."

Captain Welder gave you a phone number then she smiled.
"How thoughtful, thank you."
She said as Anna sanded her the box of jaffa cakes.
"Hum...you do look very much like someone I once knew child, a member of a Greek Craft..."
She said as she struggled to open the box of cakes, took one and then offered the box to you and Anna as well.
"A Greek Craft?"
Anna asked and looked at you before accepting a cookie.
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Post by s7trif3 on Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:05 pm

"You are probably right and it is hard to judge in a situation I was not a part of."
Bruce said then he grinned.
"And I will ask Nico, when I take them out to dinner today, Dr Lee have given the ok if we do not go far and they are not strained to much."

"I'm glad they're feeling up to going out," he said. "Please give my regards."

Abstractly, we could do something like rearranging it into shape with something, much like how you'd form ferric structures with a magnet. There has to be a quick and drastic way to change it back as there is to destroy. Although i know destroying is easier than building



"They are Avatars not Lego buildings I am not sure you can just rearrange them Mr Yager." Bruce said sounding rather doubtful. "And a quick and drastic way to change an Avatar do not sound very safe."


He frowned, "Taking apart an Avatar is the... easy part. The problem is wringing the bits back into their right shape and putting them back together. That's still well beyond the abilities of any Mage, I'm afraid..."

"The shape of an avatar is not something we're bound to know well, especially after they have Fallen, it's already been ripped apart. But I have an idea that relates to that one in some ways, the same way you can make an educated guess at what some of the...silhouette's form is supposed to look like by perceiving the 'perimeter' of it. We can know some of the shape of them, so to speak, and by shapes I mean sounds." He tipped his head a little as he spoke. "But it would only be one small part of it, one or a few lifetimes, I would imagine..."

He grinned, "They're not on Earth, actually - they're semimythological beings that have helped Avatars merge perfectly with Mages, back when Mages had Founts that had no voice."

"And you wish to call one, why?"

And to do that, we must do an inside work. So we need to change all in this structure. From our own structure, now old and monolitic, directed by people with thousands of years, down on to the common life. We move around as shadows, as we are being intentionally turned into memories. That's just waiting to truly become no more than shadows. Maybe, to be less poetic and more practical, i belive we are stubbornly using old techniques for new problems, and we need to keep up, but we can't due to a long list of reasons, not being less the fact that old powers still make and uphold the same ways that led to their defeat too.


"Old magickal systems seam to still work pretty well for the ones using them, I use a more modern system myself but I can not deny the power the Verbena and the Hermetics among others have."
Bruce said and he shook his head.
"And I do not think that it would be a good idea to come out from among the shadows, the Law of Shade is there for a reason, the sleepers would not be kind if the found out that we exist."
He frowned, "Mages that don't Awaken as Traditionalists tend to become Technocrats; the Union refuses to believe in Magic, yet they essentially do the same as we, and they unfortunately have something of a stranglehold on the Consensus... for now. But, with the surge in fantasy and modern occultism, we're cracking the enamel, all the same..."

"If we walked around in the open and did tons of magick outright, we'd be doxed before Tuesday and sleepers have better than pitchforks at their disposal now. But there are some revivals in progress, we need to get the pendulum to swing the other way," he said with a nod.

We'll see if they are up to the task, but... it would be a mission i don't know much about. I mean... we'd have to go to a plane i don't exactly know how to reach that's pure change, and then study what we can of it to learn a way to get an avatar into it and use the change produced on it by the spirit realm to get the avatar back to shape. in any case, i'd have to look how it is but i belive we can numb the corruption, at least try to isolate it's influence on the ship's behaviour so we can travel.
I hope it is not as hard to cleanse as a soul so maybe we can actually clean it for good.


"If it is the ship Colin have been discussing you are talking about Mr Karyak then I doubt that her owner would like you to take it to some strange mystery realm that can get you and your crew killed and the ship destroyed Mr Karyak, the expedition you talk about seam rather ill planned."
The Artificer commented dryly.
He frowned, "You want to go to a place of pure change... that's not going to take protecting the ship from corruption, as such, that's... no, I'm not going to agree with or participate in such a voyage; not without some serious power at my side to dampen the forces of change. Far too risky."

"What plane is this, Mr Karyak?" he said, raising an eyebrow. "What do you know of it?"

I have a few tricks up my sleeve, so reaching is not the problem. Maybe we can ask for a special... investigation license? Or maybe a permit to prepare for the now nephandus girl's trial... i would try to reach out on my own but as you asked me to think it twice, i belive we should think how to get there without getting ourselves on trial... as soon as we have a solution we can start a revolution on, "avatar recovery" ? That's a thing?



"To put it bluntly, the fewer people that know the reach of our progress at this time the better. There are forces that may wish to stop us, and if it is known what we are trying to do, and how..." He shook his head.

He grinned to Adley, "Asgardians in Marvel are not gods, as such, though they've been worshipped as gods by more primitive peoples. They're technically aliens."

He waved a hand. "Some people think that some of the Umbrood are aliens. I suppose it technically is true, since they are alien to earthly life if they're outer umbrood."

"Then I'm wasting time trying to unmake a mental shield. Enough time for them to punch me or realize what I'm doing." Serge replied.

"That's why you need backup. How about I stop then from punching us in the face and distract them by punching /them/ in the face?" He grinned.

"We have the Hagalaz group from your own Tradition Mr Yager he might fit there."
Bruce said and grinned.
"They are Norse."
"That's about the only connection. Thor doesn't use runes or inscribe or enchant his own weaponary." Serge replied.

Adley scratched at his beard. "I have heard of stories and rumors from way back in the days, the Order fighting northmen...what you'd call Vikings I commonly, that had magickal abilities They weren't Hagalaz, for they did not exist yet."

"Some cultists use the thrill of battle to achieve their desired mind state. They have specific arenas where they can have such battles without disturbing others. Beyond that, I don't think we have any sort of organized dueling system. We're a pretty flexible tradition. Well I think there is one where you try to overwhelm another person's senses...but I don't know much about that."

"That seems the closest, perhaps."

He arched an eyebrow, "A Round Table, perhaps? Like the one at Camelot of old?"

"Tables and wheels and circles, all good symbols," he agreed. "Your name is Wainwright," he said looking a bit amused. "Instead of Mr Wainwright's tea party, it could be a wagon wheel."

He smiled, "I thought of a ruler, because every teacher I ever had used one. Well, a ruler and a piece of chalk... And I would not suggest that we decide for Bee - she'd get all indignant."

He laughed a little. "Did you get reprimanded very much? And no I'm not choosing for her, I was just speculating. I was considering how our two symbols would seem together."

He grinned, "You're all welcome to come running with me every morning; a few laps around the block would do you a world of good."

"When I get back on my feet," he agreed.

He shrugged, "I don't see why we could not take a Tarot card as Cabal name - but, for now, we'll only add it to the suggestion list. The others need to be allowed input, too."
"We've got a lot of long list of suggestions. Perhaps we should send it to some of the other cabal members to see what they think. Anymore and it might get overwhelming."

He nodded. "Agreed. Well then, that seems to wrap things up for now. To follow up on: discussing the possible names with the other cabal members, setting up a pizza night, and other group activities."

// since it's easy to miss things that I responded to to Tane, I highlighted Tane's convo parts in bold
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Post by Warpmind on Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:41 pm

[Cabal Meeting, 10 AM, Wednesday September 30th]
Anja wrote:"You are probably right and it is hard to judge in a situation I was not a part of."
Bruce said then he grinned.
"And I will ask Nico, when I take them out to dinner today, Dr Lee have given the ok if we do not go far and they are not strained to much."
S7trif3 wrote:"I'm glad they're feeling up to going out," he said. "Please give my regards."
Anja wrote:Bruce nodded at that.
"I will do so."
He promised.
Colin nodded, "Please give them my regards as well... and if you could, please let them know that I would like to commission a particular item from them, as soon as they feel up to working again - they'll be welcome to access my workshop and the materials therein."

Jeremy wrote:"I might be able to temporarily turn off or overload that ability, if you want. If it's instinctual than it shouldn't be to hard to trick." Serge pondered.
He frowned, then grinned broadly, "If you can figure out a way to temporarily shut off that knack, I'd be in your debt. So many games that lost their appeal once I started knowing what everyone else drew, or would roll..."

Anja wrote:"That is pretty cool actually and you can summon one of these what was it you called them?"
Bruce asked sounding impressed.
S7trif3 wrote:"And you wish to call one, why?"
He nodded, "Psychopomps, and I might be able to summon one... seems no-one has seen them since the Order of Reason started making trouble, or thereabouts. And I hope to call one for two reasons - first, to find out if the old ritual still works, and second, to help Master Nassa gain his new apprentice. It's... a little complicated."

Anja wrote:"Defeat the Union one fantasy book at the time."
Bruce joked.
He grinned, "I'm entirely in favour of that one - break the Union through Amazon.com."

Anja wrote:"True that and it is something best avoided."
The Artificer commented dryly.
He nodded, "Quite; the splitting headache is bad enough, but the likely death part is a bit tricky to overcome."

Jeremy wrote:"Oh I will." Serge said with a grin on his face. "All I need is a hallway and some willing participants."
Anja wrote:Bruce gave you a somewhat skeptical look.
He arched an eyebrow, "And perhaps a set of non-permanent marker pens to decorate the poor fellows who get stuck?"

Jeremy wrote:"Nobody wants to hear my mind music." Serge said with a humorous frown.
Anja wrote:"That would be a correct assumption."
Bruce said flatly.
He grinned wickedly, "Besides, why resort to magic, when all you have to do is sing 'Mama, just killed a man, put a gun against his head...'"

Anja wrote:"This is about keeping Adeptus Riez's old sweetheart out of the Main Sentencing Hall right?"
Bruce asked.
"For then yes time is definitively of the essence."
He nodded, "Very much of the essence. The Quaesitor who retrieved the prisoners agreed to put the poor young woman at the bottom of the docket - but that's only an administrative shuffle, and not an indefinite delay."

Anja wrote:Bruce grunted at that saying that he did not completely agree but he did not want to argue the point either.
He smiled wryly, "Try to think of the gland as a TV set. You can't watch TV without it, but it is not the programming."

Jeremy wrote:"Actually, there really is not point in excluding the Men in Black. She's probably trained by them and broke their mental conditioning to do her own thing. Same deal as Hawkeye."
Anja wrote:"Yeah that could fit actually."
Bruce agreed and smiled.
Anja wrote:"Perhaps you are right about Cap, Thor as a Verbena Storm Wife though that do fit, and Master Nassa swinging a big, enchanted hammer would be terrifying."
Bruce said with a grin.
Jeremy wrote:"Still not liking that Banner thing. What's wrong with Etherite turned in an experiment gone horribly wrong? I think that's a pretty fun story. Thor as a Verbana....not really fitting stereotypes but I'll take you guy's word on it."
Anja wrote:"I am with the kid on this one guys, the Hulk is clearly modeled on Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde and they would be perfect Etherites. Now as for Thor well the Verbena Storm Wives control weather and they are warriors, seams like a good fit for me."
He nodded, "I would agree with the Etherite hypothesis for the Hulk, except for the simple reason that Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk specifically when angry, not by drinking a serum or other external agent. Arguably, the gamma bomb incident was his Awakening moment."

Jeremy wrote:"That's about the only connection. Thor doesn't use runes or inscribe or enchant his own weaponary." Serge replied.
Anja wrote:"That is why I think the Storm Wives would be a better fit."
S7trif3 wrote:Adley scratched at his beard. "I have heard of stories and rumors from way back in the days, the Order fighting northmen...what you'd call Vikings I commonly, that had magickal abilities They weren't Hagalaz, for they did not exist yet."
Jeremy wrote:"Early Hagalaz? Before they became a formalized group? MAybe. The history of those guys are freaky." Serge said with a frown.
Anja wrote:"Most cultures have had mages so they might not have been from a group that exist today or they might have been of the old faith, what became the Verbena."
Bruce suggested.
S7trif3 wrote:'I'm not sure. There's a lot of stories of the Order fighting all manner of wizards."
Anja wrote:"The Order of Hermes generally liked to pick a fight with every other Awakened they could find. They generally did not like anyone else playing in their sandbox."
The Orphan said and frowned.
He pondered, "Hum, perhaps Tormod of Kirkenes was part of the Craft that would become the Hagalaz."

Jeremy wrote:"I hate running so much. And most types of exercise. Which probably explains my physique..."
S7trif3 wrote:"When I get back on my feet," he agreed.
Anja wrote:"Well if you want to be good at physical combat you have to work on your physical body either through exercise or learning Life magick and cheat."
Bruce said and grinned.
He grinned wryly, "Besides, son, you might find that as unpleasant and onerous exercise may be, it's a lot more unpleasant to be chased by a HIT-Mark on foot if you are miserably out of shape..."

Anja wrote:"She was a interesting lady the Sons of Ether still hold her in much regard, after all she was let in before the Tradition generally allowed women to become members."
Bruce said.
"I am more interested in her accomplishments as a mage than her being royalty, she earned her rank among mages, her title as queen was just handed to her."
He nodded, "Of course - but consider this, relatively few people who have inherited their crown have wielded that power with as much strength and skill as she did. There's little to be impressed by in her becoming queen, but over six decades of governance and expansion like that? Not a small feat, Mage or not."

S7trif3 wrote:"Tables and wheels and circles, all good symbols," he agreed. "Your name is Wainwright," he said looking a bit amused. "Instead of Mr Wainwright's tea party, it could be a wagon wheel."
Jeremy wrote:"Mr. Wainwright's wagon wheel? Beautiful Alliteration. I love it." Serge said with a smile.
He grimaced, "What is this, an รก la cart choice all of a sudden?"

S7trif3 wrote:He laughed a little. "Did you get reprimanded very much? And no I'm not choosing for her, I was just speculating. I was considering how our two symbols would seem together."
He shrugged, "Not more than average, I think... No, most of my teachers used it to underline important words and phrases, and the like."

Jeremy wrote:"We've got a lot of long list of suggestions. Perhaps we should send it to some of the other cabal members to see what they think. Anymore and it might get overwhelming."
Anja wrote:"Agreed they should get a word in about this as well."
Bruce said and nodded.
S7trif3 wrote:He nodded. "Agreed. Well then, that seems to wrap things up for now. To follow up on: discussing the possible names with the other cabal members, setting up a pizza night, and other group activities."
Jeremy wrote:"Is there anything else on the agenda?" Serge asked looking at Adley and then Colin.
He nodded and noted down a few more things, along with the suggested names and possible heraldry, "No, that seems to be it... unless anyone else has something, we can call the meeting adjourned."
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Post by Warpmind on Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:52 am

[Cabal Meeting, 10 AM, Wednesday September 30th]
Anja wrote:"Certainly I will let them know Colin."
Bruce said and smiled.
Colin smiled, "Thank you. Anna's restraining collar is merely a loan; I shall need to have a duplicate made as soon as possible, so the rightful owner gets theirs back. It's a precious item, far beyond its magical or monetary value..."

Jeremy wrote:"Don't forget spray painting me pink and calling me jigglypuff." Serge said with a chuckle before realizing that that reference might not be so easily understood among the present mages.
Anja wrote:Bruce chuckled at that.
"Just make sure you sing."
He commented.
S7trif3 wrote:"You'll need a microphone."
Anja wrote:"One with a hidden marker pen inside of it."
Bruce sai and grinned.
He just arched an eyebrow and quietly googled 'Jigglypuff' before putting his phone back down with a half-smile.

S7trif3 wrote:"Ah, I see. Well, I shall look forward to a longer conversation later."
Anja wrote:"That is really cool actually I doubt I could be much help with such a spell given my Paradigm but I wish you the best with it and please tell me how it go if you can once you have tried it."
Bruce said and smiled.
He nodded, then pondered, "You might be able to help with some of the paraphernalia I might need - I've yet to finish studying the ritual, though, so i don't know yet. I'll let you know."

S7trif3 wrote:He spread his fingers in a gesture not quite an apology. "It was a very us or them time...where them was anyone else."
Anja wrote:"It was another time then."
Bruce agreed and sigh.
"But hell back in the day your Tradition where kind of bullies."
He smiled wryly, "Back then, I suppose everyone with a bit of power were kind of bullies... The Order of Hermes were just a little better organized."

Anja wrote:"Good, then I can feel better about splurging on books."
The Artificer said and grinned.
He grinned, "Let me know if you need any recommendations for new materials to read."

Anja wrote:"One can survive being shot in the head but it is best not to risk it."
Bruce said and frowned.
"It would not be good."
He nodded, "No head injury is ever good."

Anja wrote:Bruce nodded at that and he frowned.
"Adeptus Riez will take it hard if...that...happens to Cadence Clearwater."
He grumbled.
He nodded, "He will... perhaps we can save her soul, even her life, though..."

Anja wrote:"I am still not sure I buy that but sure....I guess it makes some sense."
Bruce said and grunted.
He smiled thinly, "It's a working analogy, not a perfect one."

Jeremy wrote:"The Akashic do stuff like that all the time right? Empowering their strikes?" Serge said remembering all the martial arts movies he had ever watched. "Yeah if we wanted to do subtle there's probably a number of better ways. Like heating up a person's gun so that he'll drop it."
S7trif3 wrote:"Yes, but they use special techniques of their own. Heating up the person's gun is a very good idea. Sometimes adjusting the environment or tool is easier than targeting the person themselves."
Anja wrote:"That would get you Paradox metal do not just heat up for no reason."
Bruce said and shook his head.
He nodded, "I would actually recommend freezing the metal rather than heating it up. Just as unpleasant to hold barehanded, the barrel contracts so the bullet can't get out, and there's no risk of accidentally heating the catridges to the gunpowder's ignition point."

Jeremy wrote:"...pulled the trigger, now he's dead." Serge continued, "Mama, life had just begun..."
S7trif3 wrote:"Damn...that's going to be stuck in my head."
He grinned, "Works every time... but here's something that makes it a little creepier: everyone knows the lyrics to Bohemian Rhapsody, but think back... do you recall ever learning the song?"

Jeremy wrote:"Looks like we have an interesting game of goldfish in our future." Serge said with a grin.
He nodded, "Looking forward to it."

Anja wrote:"I would not put it past the Etherboyz making a potion that make you change form depending on your mood."
Bruce protested.
"After all without freaky science there would be no Hulk it is not just a matter of emotions."
Jeremy wrote:"I view the Hulk as a terrible paradox backlash. Like he awakened long ago and began doing his genius thing like all magickal genius's do, accumulating a large amount of dox in the process. Then in the gamma experiment it all came down on him at once and he was cursed with that Hulk, a reflection of his own rage made real. I'm hesitant on Cultist because most cultist's like going into different mind states while Banner actively tried to avoid his." Serge argued.

"He's lucky in that he can control his paradox curse...to an extent. But it doesn't exactly do him any favors."
Anja wrote:"I still say he would be a Etherite."
Bruce protested.
"But I guess the idea of it being a Paradox flaw works as well."
He nodded, "I suppose those could work, too... But, when it comes down to it, we're discussing a fictional character."

Anja wrote:"Who is this Tormod of Kirkenes?"
The large Orphan asked.
He paused, "He was a Norwegian Mage, whom the First Cabal sought out. That turned out to be when Akrites Salonikas had his prophetic visions, and there was an... accident; Tormod of Kirkenes was killed by an accidental temporal storm from the Seer. It's... rather vividly described; a very unpleasant way to go."

Jeremy wrote:"Stupid overpowered terminator robots...no minds to screw with..." Serge muttered grumpily under his breath.
Anja wrote:"They have minds Mr Yager it is just that those minds are heavily controlled, but there is a human brain in there."
The Orphan said and frowned.
"Poor creatures."
He nodded, "The standard HIT-Mark has had its brain wiped of all personality, it seems... Theres' a Deaconess in Chicago, though; she escaped the wiping process... she's a fleshless HIT-Mark, not as well regarded as she deserves. She's a noble lady and a good leader for the outcasts who have come to her Chantry."

S7trif3 wrote:"Heh, that's a terrible pun," he grinned.
He grinned, "And you bloody well earned it; I make no apologies."

S7trif3 wrote:He nodded, then smiled a little. "I see the connection now."
He smiled, "But perhaps you are right; the ruler is perhaps a little old-fashioned for your work."

Anja wrote:"True enough, perhaps royalty got it right that time, not that I agree with that form of government but Queen Victoria did do a good job."
Bruce agreed and nodded.
He nodded, "I quite favour the European systems of a hereditary monarch and an elected government - gives the stability of the Monarchy while ensuring the liberties and influences of Democracy."

Jeremy wrote:"I have nothing else to add." Serge said looking around at the other members.
S7trif3 wrote:"Nothing else, right now. Later we should talk though when you have a minute, amius," he said to Colin. "I've got two classes to teach today and catch up on backwork, but whenever you got time."
Anja wrote:"I have nothing to add."
Bruce said and he shook his head.
He nodded, "Well, Mr. Karyak, if you have nothing more, either, we can call the meeting adjourned."
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Post by Anja Rebekka Schultze on Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:27 pm

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Now that sounds awesome

"Great, I can speak with Jon and Richard as well so we can find a day we can all eat together, and hopefully Bee will be well enough to be carried in to join us, if nothing else she can be made comfortable on the sofa while we eat."
Bruce said and smiled.

IT can have risks, but any quirurgic procedure is actually pretty drastic and shocking, but it's sometimes the only option and safer than not.

"Yeah well try to make sure Bee is not one of those you try this thing out on."
The Orphan said protectively of his Cabalmate.

Magick systems are no problem. They resonate with our history. Is stiff minds and old disconnected bones that weight us down. There's a reason with the chief of a tribe is usually young and at it's top, and old people are sages and councelers.

"The leadership of the Traditions are old that I admit and they have old fashioned attitudes but I do not see that changing anytime soon, and if we are not going to have a Meritocracy where the most powerful magi rule how do you suggjest we choose our leaders?"
Bruce said he did not sound convinced.

Let acts speak. Make yourself a name and go to sleep, right?


"Yeah no I prefer to keep my abilities secret and avoid the torch and pitchfork brigade."
The Artificer grunted and he shook his head.

Totally, i need to start looking into it with Master Telar before setting myself on a direct study. I suppose though it won't take SOOOO much time.

"I suspect that learning to go to some realm of never ending change and doing so safely will take some time Mr Karyak."
Bruce said and he raised an eyebrow.

I'm reading laws at the moment, so let me get a little more insight and we can plot a bit more on this. maybe we can argue she was something like a spy and tried to inform us all along and whatnot... in any case, we need the knowledge and a couple of ways to make sure she doesn't lie to us.

"Lying during the proceedings are probably not the right way to go, if that is found out and it will be found out Miss Clearwater is toast and so is her defense, it is a matter of record that she was captured in battle fighting for the Nephandi claiming that she suddenly are a spy, the Council may be old but they are not that senile."
The Orphan said and shook his head.
"So yeah no that is not a good idea, nor would it help much even if they believed the lie since the real crime is that she is Fallen, even if she had the best of intentions joining the Nephandi it do not change that fact."

"That's really easy to do and would work in most cases in fact. It's one of the first things they teach you in mind school." Serge said agreeing to the sentiment. "But sometimes if their minds are set on killing you it can get kinda tough. Bar fights and run-ins with gangsters are easy enough. Zealous Nephandi and Brainwashed Technocrats might need a bit more effort."

"No tactic are going to work all of the time Mr Yager and it is not always possible to be subtle sometimes you have to say fuck Paradox and fight with all you got. Now when that is said zealous Nephandi and brainwashed Technocrats are also the ones that are most likely to have their minds protected so your little tricks will be harder to do."
Bruce said and shrugged.

"I was just thinking of spilling silver paint over my hand. Real life experiences work too though." Serge said with a nod.

"Silver paint do not feel quite the same as molten metal Mr Yager, not unless you are using some really impressive paint."
The Orphan sai dryly.

"Ehhh, I dunno." Serge said with a shrug. "Playing by the rules can get dull at times. Plus I just wanna feel like a cool stealthy wizard."

Bruce just shook his head and this and sigh, he did not look impressed.

"Fuck. Yeah I meant worlds." Serge muttered correcting himself.

The Artificer grinned a little at that.

"I'm sure you will. And then you'll create the best legendary enchanted item ever that'll go down in wizard history." Serge said with a smile.

Bruce looked at Serge then he grinned a little.
"Well thanks kid, you know sometimes your enthusiasm is not to bad."

"Safety issues aside, sometimes you need to blow their gun up which is easier than turning it to slag. There's a rote that was used against us in one of our fights, it seemed a variation on an Order rote, which likely was developed from one that was used against archers, that would do what Mr Yager described. I think depending on the circumstance it was less flashy than a fireball, certainly."

"Sometimes you know that the Dox with hurt but being taken down by the Union will hurt more so you just have to do what you have to do."
Bruce agreed.
"But we can try to be subtle when we can."

'Thanks."

Bruce smiled a little at that and nodded.
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[Cabal Meeting, 10 AM, Wednesday September 30th]
Anja wrote:"Wonderful, any more of this and I will need a drink."
Bruce grumbled.
Colin grinned, "I would have offered one, but, er, it seems Mr. Tasselwell and I rather cleaned out my supplies after the battle, and I haven't had the time nor inclination to restock."

S7trif3 wrote:"Keep me posted."
He nodded, "Of course."

Anja wrote:"Great, I can speak with Jon and Richard as well so we can find a day we can all eat together, and hopefully Bee will be well enough to be carried in to join us, if nothing else she can be made comfortable on the sofa while we eat."
Bruce said and smiled.
He smiled wryly, "I would prefer afternoons or evenings, but if needs must be, I could probably excuse myself from the shop any day with a little advance warning. Bruce, I'm delegating picking a date and time that works for everyone to you."

Tane wrote:IT can have risks, but any quirurgic procedure is actually pretty drastic and shocking, but it's sometimes the only option and safer than not.
Anja wrote:"Yeah well try to make sure Bee is not one of those you try this thing out on."
The Orphan said protectively of his Cabalmate.
He frowned, "Mr. Karyak, what you are speaking of is not surgery, it's experimentation. A sort of experimentation that could be fairly compared to the sort of research that was harshly put a stop to in 1945."

Tane wrote:Magick systems are no problem. They resonate with our history. Is stiff minds and old disconnected bones that weight us down. There's a reason with the chief of a tribe is usually young and at it's top, and old people are sages and councelers.
Anja wrote:"The leadership of the Traditions are old that I admit and they have old fashioned attitudes but I do not see that changing anytime soon, and if we are not going to have a Meritocracy where the most powerful magi rule how do you suggjest we choose our leaders?"
Bruce said he did not sound convinced.
He pondered, "The chief of a tribe usually being young seems a bit off; remember that youth and enthusiasm is no match for age and treachery... The young leader who rules with wisdom and cunning is more of an anomaly than anything else - though I will allow that Alexander the Great was one hell of an exception to the rule."

S7trif3 wrote:"I would put that into the survival aspect, even so."
He grimaced, "Well, to an extent, I suppose."

Tane wrote:Let acts speak. Make yourself a name and go to sleep, right?
Anja wrote:"Yeah no I prefer to keep my abilities secret and avoid the torch and pitchfork brigade."
The Artificer grunted and he shook his head.
He frowned, "Make a name for yourself, and the Technocracy knows where to come knocking. And they tend to be a little nastier than your average torches-and-pitchforks mob."

Tane wrote:Totally, i need to start looking into it with Master Telar before setting myself on a direct study. I suppose though it won't take SOOOO much time.
Anja wrote:"I suspect that learning to go to some realm of never ending change and doing so safely will take some time Mr Karyak."
Bruce said and he raised an eyebrow.
He arched an eyebrow, "That sounds like a few decades of dedicated study. At a minimum."

Tane wrote:I'm reading laws at the moment, so let me get a little more insight and we can plot a bit more on this. maybe we can argue she was something like a spy and tried to inform us all along and whatnot... in any case, we need the knowledge and a couple of ways to make sure she doesn't lie to us.
Anja wrote:"Lying during the proceedings are probably not the right way to go, if that is found out and it will be found out Miss Clearwater is toast and so is her defense, it is a matter of record that she was captured in battle fighting for the Nephandi claiming that she suddenly are a spy, the Council may be old but they are not that senile."
The Orphan said and shook his head.
"So yeah no that is not a good idea, nor would it help much even if they believed the lie since the real crime is that she is Fallen, even if she had the best of intentions joining the Nephandi it do not change that fact."
He shook his head, "Suggesting Lady Dalisse to be a spy would be foolish in the extreme. For starters, she is a known historical figure, whose life up to the point when she escaped from Guernicus' experiments is known to the Quaesitors, and second, I have testified as to her disposition before one of the most absolute Quaesitors I know of, Master Tolle, who would not take kindly to any attempt at deception like that. I expect Master Tolle will be debating with other senior members relatively soon what Lady Dalisse's actual legal standing will be, as she is not Fallen, and presently effectively defected from the Nephandi - but trying to pull a fast one like you propose will likely endanger her chance to come home to the Traditions, and my life as well. And i am quite fond of my life, so I would be compelled to do very drastic things to defend it."

Anja wrote:"I think...I will begin with book one and two from one series and come back for more once I have read them."
Bruce said as he selected two books.
"Thanks Colin I will get them back to you as soon as possible."
He smiled, "No rush, take whatever time you need. Oh, and if you use dog ears instead of proper bookmarks, I will rain misfortune on a Biblical scale upon you."

S7trif3 wrote:Idly, he scanned the shelves he pointed out and then the others.
Adley would note a long series of notebooks of various sizes and thicknesses on the top shelf, as well as a good number of Anna's collection of books on the top and second shelf. More of Anna's books took up the top three shelves of another bookcase. There were probably more shelves in the bedrooms, too... one shelf had a set of sliding glass doors, and was filled with nicknacks, including an old, worn Matchbox car.

Anja wrote:"Yeah that might be a better idea."
Bruce agreed and nodded.
Jeremy wrote:"That's really easy to do and would work in most cases in fact. It's one of the first things they teach you in mind school." Serge said agreeing to the sentiment. "But sometimes if their minds are set on killing you it can get kinda tough. Bar fights and run-ins with gangsters are easy enough. Zealous Nephandi and Brainwashed Technocrats might need a bit more effort."
Anja wrote:"No tactic are going to work all of the time Mr Yager and it is not always possible to be subtle sometimes you have to say fuck Paradox and fight with all you got. Now when that is said zealous Nephandi and brainwashed Technocrats are also the ones that are most likely to have their minds protected so your little tricks will be harder to do."
Bruce said and shrugged.
Jeremy wrote:"That's true. Well I have some options at least." Serge said with a sigh.
He grimaced, "On the bright side, if you're up against the Fallen, you might find it most beneficial to provoke highly vulgar magic from them. Reality doesn't like it when they do that..."

S7trif3 wrote:"Safety issues aside, sometimes you need to blow their gun up which is easier than turning it to slag. There's a rote that was used against us in one of our fights, it seemed a variation on an Order rote, which likely was developed from one that was used against archers, that would do what Mr Yager described. I think depending on the circumstance it was less flashy than a fireball, certainly."
Anja wrote:"Sometimes you know that the Dox with hurt but being taken down by the Union will hurt more so you just have to do what you have to do."
Bruce agreed.
"But we can try to be subtle when we can."
He nodded, "Subtlety is useful in most cases, but when the bullets are flying anyway, go with what works."

Jeremy wrote:"I was just thinking of spilling silver paint over my hand. Real life experiences work too though." Serge said with a nod.
Anja wrote:"Silver paint do not feel quite the same as molten metal Mr Yager, not unless you are using some really impressive paint."
The Orphan sai dryly.
Jeremy wrote:"I more care about the look and feel of liquid metal running down your hands. Most people don't know what that feels like so I can leave a lot of stuff up to their own interpretation. It's mostly just to freak them out." Serge said with a shrug.
He shook his head, "Most kinds of paint feel more like blood than metal. Just... trust me on that."

S7trif3 wrote:'Interesting. I have no idea, as I don't frequent the science buildings, my building is near Storrow Drive, theirs is over by Beacon street but I can probably find out if Metcalf has some..."
Jeremy wrote:"Gallium works too. It's less messy as well." Serge commented.
He nodded, "I'd be surprised if they didn't have a sample of three. But I wouldn't expect you to be allowed to simply borrow it, I believe the stuff costs dollars per gram And it's a fairly heavy metal, so there's not much of it in a gram."

Jeremy wrote:"Ehhh, I dunno." Serge said with a shrug. "Playing by the rules can get dull at times. Plus I just wanna feel like a cool stealthy wizard."
Anja wrote:Bruce just shook his head and this and sigh, he did not look impressed.
He grinned wryly, "Playing by the rules makes sure you don't get thrown out. Where you can find a way to really shine is in finding the loopholes, the rules exploits - if you can find some inventive trick that is not technically cheating, you're more likely to get that recognition and personal satisfaction than if you simply give yourself a perfect streak of dice rolls or card draws."

S7trif3 wrote:"There goes my idea for getting the cabal some cash."
He grinned, "Well, there's always American Idol..."

Jeremy wrote:"Damn Karma..." Serge said with a resigned smile. "Wouldn't mind buying one of those luck charms though. Sadly I don't think I could afford it."
He arched an eyebrow, "They're mostly around five dollars. Give or take about a dollar or two dependant on size."

S7trif3 wrote:"I should bring this in to class someday, or parchment or papyrus. That would be interesting, let all the kids write Greek graffiti on it. See if they can appropriately conjugate 'fuck' to fit their needs," he said, looking amused.
He grinned, "How about pottery? You know, demigods have faced the odds and ended up a mockery; don't believe the stories that you read on all the crockery..."

Jeremy wrote:"Fuck. Yeah I meant worlds." Serge muttered correcting himself.
S7trif3 wrote:"Yes, and all the denizens in it...travellng in it is something quite different, landmarks are your associations, distance is less of a physical thing and more of a concept of separation between you and where you are going. It's easy to get lost, too...but yes, in a week or so I should feel better enough to use simple perception abilities, I can take you to the roof garden and show you what it looks like in the Near Umbra, there are usually some spirits up there and I will want to say hello to some friends of mine." He smiled a little.
Jeremy wrote:"I'd like that. Wouldn't mind seeing the guardian spirit of the Chantry as well." Serge said with a nod.
Jeremy wrote:He nodded, thinking about the one that looked similar to popularly depicted angels. Then he got a faraway look as he thought of the one over by the Villa and scratched at his chest idly as if something itched him.
He glanced at Adley, then nodded, "The Spirit of Steelhaven Hall looks a lot like a classic angel; pleasant enough. And yes, traveling the Umbra is a matter of imagery and association. Finding a giant polyp of rotting flesh was a moderately unpleasant search, even if it was ameliorated by looking for Dune references..."

S7trif3 wrote:"I haven't even gotten to see this ship yet," he said. "I am getting to ride in it, yes?"
Jeremy wrote:"Going on a trip in an Umbra ship? Hell yeah! That sounds like fun." Serge said enthusiastically. "And Adley already mentioned that he'd share his spirit sense with me, after a brief lessons in spirit etiquette of course."
S7trif3 wrote:"Interpersonal exchanges are bound to be different than when one is navigating a whole ship...ah, how to say, open waters? of the Umbra I expect. Colin will know more of that. I did take a carride through the Umbra once though that was strange. But yes, it's a good idea to have a basic understanding. I cannot teach you the language I use to speak with them, but some know English and other human languages. And you can use an interpreter."
Jeremy wrote:"Dream Realms count as part of the Umbra right? Cause if they do then I have about bit of experience in that particular type of Umbra." Serge said vaguely.

"I've wondered if I could talk telepathically with spirits. Thought is different then normal speech itself and spirits might be able to understand that regardless of how they speak. Of course I could be horribly mistaken, so I won't be trying it anytime soon."
He smiled wryly, "Can't think of a reason why you wouldn't get to ride your pater's shuttle. Unless you have serious problems with motion sickness on board, of course... As for Dream Realms, bugger if I know. There's probably some overlap or shared borders, or something of the sort. As a general piece of advice, though, I would recommend against trying to communicate telepathically with anything too alien. And most spirits would qualify."

Anja wrote:"It is not right in either case."
Bruce said and frowned.
S7trif3 wrote:"I'm still unclear why they don't allow her to have...well, skin, to be frank."
S7trif3 wrote:"It seems unwise to tempt the Law of Shade like that for someone who is one of our own, aside from the various ethical concerns but I do think continuing to discuss her without her here may soon begin to drift into rudeness. Perhaps sometime you will meet her, Mr Yager."
Jeremy wrote:"Perhaps one day." Serge said as he began doodling on his not pad once again, this time attempting to draw his own version of the terminator which had significantly more rocket launchers.
He nodded to Adley, "You are right, of course, we're getting into speculative territory. Best put the subject to rest for now."

Anja wrote:"The twelve year system you mention here could work, I think that would be a good system."
Bruce said.
"It do give stability without having to resort to elevating one family over the rest, saying this little shit brat is by virtue of birth entitled to honorifics and respect just because of who his daddy is, which really is a shit system."
He nodded, "Hereditary rulership has produced a few good leaders. Mostly the opposite, though - and eventually, you get an inbred imbecile on the throne, of which Carlos II of Spain was the strongest example."
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Post by Anja Rebekka Schultze Yesterday at 11:23 am

[Adley, Colin, Tane and Serge] (Cabal meeting 10 in the morning Wednesday 30/9 2015)

"I more care about the look and feel of liquid metal running down your hands. Most people don't know what that feels like so I can leave a lot of stuff up to their own interpretation. It's mostly just to freak them out." Serge said with a shrug.

"Fair enough."
Bruce said and nodded.

"That's true. Well I have some options at least." Serge said with a sigh.

"That is true and it is good to have options."
The Orphan said and nodded.

Colin grinned, "I would have offered one, but, er, it seems Mr. Tasselwell and I rather cleaned out my supplies after the battle, and I haven't had the time nor inclination to restock."

"Ah well Sunday evening was a good day to drink."
Bruce said and grinned.

He smiled wryly, "I would prefer afternoons or evenings, but if needs must be, I could probably excuse myself from the shop any day with a little advance warning. Bruce, I'm delegating picking a date and time that works for everyone to you."

"Afternoons would probably be more practical to most of us, but I will speak with the others and see when is a good time for them."
Bruce said.
"And I will speak with Master Nassa about Bee."

He frowned, "Make a name for yourself, and the Technocracy knows where to come knocking. And they tend to be a little nastier than your average torches-and-pitchforks mob."

"True the last thing we want are the attention of the fucking Union, and yeah they do have more than torches and pitchforks."
Bruce said and frowned.

He shook his head, "Suggesting Lady Dalisse to be a spy would be foolish in the extreme. For starters, she is a known historical figure, whose life up to the point when she escaped from Guernicus' experiments is known to the Quaesitors, and second, I have testified as to her disposition before one of the most absolute Quaesitors I know of, Master Tolle, who would not take kindly to any attempt at deception like that. I expect Master Tolle will be debating with other senior members relatively soon what Lady Dalisse's actual legal standing will be, as she is not Fallen, and presently effectively defected from the Nephandi - but trying to pull a fast one like you propose will likely endanger her chance to come home to the Traditions, and my life as well. And i am quite fond of my life, so I would be compelled to do very drastic things to defend it."

"Dalisse? I was sure it was Miss Clearwater's defense that Mr Karyak was referring to but yeah, no claiming the this Dalisse is a spy also would not work, she clearly is not, though as she is not Fallen it might be a little more chance there that the Council will grant permission to speak with her."
Bruce said.

He smiled, "No rush, take whatever time you need. Oh, and if you use dog ears instead of proper bookmarks, I will rain misfortune on a Biblical scale upon you."

"Oh I would never do that Colin, books are to be kept in as good a condition as possible."
Bruce said with feigned shock.
"Anything else would be sacrilege."

He grimaced, "On the bright side, if you're up against the Fallen, you might find it most beneficial to provoke highly vulgar magic from them. Reality doesn't like it when they do that..."

Bruce grinned at that.
"Well now that is the only time when Paradox is satisfying, when it smite the Fallen, well other than when the one smithed are Bee, do you remember when she made that root grow up out of the ground to get in the way of that Top Hat car?"
The Orphan asked and frowned.
"How sick she got? I guess now we know why she got such a massive Paradox backlash from such a simple spell."

He nodded, "Subtlety is useful in most cases, but when the bullets are flying anyway, go with what works."

Bruce nodded at that.
"Agreed."

He nodded, "I'd be surprised if they didn't have a sample of three. But I wouldn't expect you to be allowed to simply borrow it, I believe the stuff costs dollars per gram And it's a fairly heavy metal, so there's not much of it in a gram."

"You know guys, I could probably make some of that metal."
Bruce offered.
"It should not be to hard, it might not be perfect but it should give the desired effect."

He grinned, "Well, there's always American Idol..."

Bruce chuckled at that.
"I am not so sure we would get very far in that Colin."

He nodded, "Hereditary rulership has produced a few good leaders. Mostly the opposite, though - and eventually, you get an inbred imbecile on the throne, of which Carlos II of Spain was the strongest example."

"Indeed that is why I think a democracy is better, not that there have not been some dum dums elected into office as well."
The Artificer said and grunted.

Adley told him what days and times he had classes, which varied, some nights, some afternoons and some mornings or a combination.

Bruce nodded at that.
"I am sure I can work around that Adley."
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